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Special
Tuning Tips for '77 GL1000s + Carb Top Service
You
might consider this item: Randakk's
GL1000 Carb Rebuild Video
Honda
made
a number
of jetting
tweaks
in '76
(K1
and
LTD)
and
again
in '77
(K2)
for
US-bound
GL1000s
to cope
with
tightening
emissions
regulations.
Other
markets
were
affected
as well.
Honda
necessarily
made
the
bikes
progressively
leaner
through
these
model
years.
Social
responsibility
is a
good
thing
for
large
corporations,
but
these
were
not
great
moves
from
the
rider's
point
of view.
Riding
a bike
with
overly
lean
carburetion
may
be "green,"
but
it certainly
can
be frustrating.
In
my experience,
the
best
running
stock
GL1000
is the
'75
(K0)
model
closely
followed
by the
'76.
I find
that
the
'77
model
is by
far
the
worst
of the
lot.
In
addition
to the
universal
off-idle
glitch
(easy
to fix
- see
below)
that
all
early
GL1000s
exhibit,
the
'77
also
suffers
from
a dreadful
midrange
hesitation
as well.
Once,
you
get
the
revs
above
4000
rpms
(relying
on the
main
jets),
the
performance
for
the
'77
spec.
jetting
is fine.
However,
from
2,500-3,500
rpms
in light
load
cruising
situations
(1/4
- 1/2
throttle),
the
poor
throttle
response
is very
annoying.
Here's
what
I do.
Preliminaries:
-
First
make
sure
all
your
tune-up
issues
are
in
order…esp.
valve
clearances
and
ignition.
Breaker
points
and
timing
must
be
perfect.
-
Take
steps
necessary
to
insure
that
you
are
working
on
carbs
which
are
meticulously
clean
(on
the
inside).
If
you
carbs
need
overhaul
and
cleaning,
bite
the
bullet
and
take
care
of
this
before
you
proceed.
The
"fix"
detailed
below
won't
cure
problems
caused
by
crud
inside
your
carbs!
-
Make
sure
you've
already
implemented
the
"off-idle
fix"
detailed
in
another
tech
tip
below.
This
is
an
easy
(external)
change
of
the
pilot
air
jets.
A
MUST
for
all
early
GL1000s!
-
This
special
fix
for
'77s
is
easier
to
implement
as
part
of
a
general
carb
overhaul
with
the
carbs
off
the
bike.
However,
here
I
describe
how
to
do
the
"fix"
on
a
bike
that
has
no
other
problems.
Here's
the
cure.
What
you're
trying
to accomplish
is gaining
enough
access
to allow
removal
of the
carb
tops.
First,
remove
the
air
filter
lid,
filter
and
housing.
Next,
detach
the
air-cutoff
valve
(don't
lose
the
o-rings!).
You
will
also
need
to detach
the
fuel
line
at the
fuel
pump
and
remove
the
8 acorn
head
nuts/bolts
that
attach
the
intakes
to the
cylinder
head.
Important:
block
the
intake
ports
with
rags
or tape
to prevent
anything
from
falling
inside.
Now
you
can
maneuver
the
entire
carb
assembly
from
side
to side
to gain
access
to the
screws
that
secure
the
carb
tops.
I usually
loosen
the
intakes
on the
right
side
and
rotate
them
180
degrees
to gain
additional
working
space.
If you
prefer,
you
can
go ahead
and
remove
the
choke
cable
and
throttle
cables
and
remove
the
entire
carb
assembly
from
the
bike.
I prefer
not
to mess
with
the
throttle
cables
unless
there's
a good
reason
to do
so.
Do
one
carb
at a
time
as follows.
Exercise
care
handling
these
parts
as they
are
easily
lost
and/or
damaged.
Please
note
that
step
4 is
only
thing
mentioned
that
is unique
to the
'77
GL1000
…the
rest
is a
good
description
of upper
carb
maintenance
for
any
early
GL1000:
-
Remove
one
carb
top,
slide
with
needle
and
spring.
For
later
reference,
take
note
of
how
much
"wiggle"
you
have
in
a
fully
secured
needle.
-
Remove
grub
screw
from
inside
slide
(this
screw
secures
jet
needle
in
position
in
the
slide).
-
Remove
jet
needle
from
slide
-
Slip
one
#4
stainless
steel
miniature
washer
onto
the
jet
needle
and
reinstall
the
jet
needle
into
the
slide.
Note:
I'm
NOT
referring
to
a
4
mm
washer.
A
#4
miniature
washer
is
a
very
small
"inch"
size.
These
can
be
purchased
at
any
decent
Ace
Hardware
store.
These
are
not
made
to
tight
tolerances.
Make
sure
you
pick
4
reasonably
matched
washers
free
of
burrs
or
other
machining
defects...especially
on
the
"flats."
You
may
have
to
dress
the
washers
a
bit
with
crocus
cloth.
The
diameter
of
the
hole
in
the
washers
should
be
a
near
perfect
fit
to
the
upper
straight
segment
of
the
needle.
Likewise,
the
outer
diameter
of
the
washer
should
approximate
the
dimension
of
the
"head"
of
the
needle.
The
ideal
washer
will
have
an
outside
diameter
of
no
more
than
about
0.25"...if
it's
much
larger
it
will
foul
on
the
internal
surfaces
of
the
slide
and
give
you
much
more
correction
than
you
are
seeking.
The
approximate
thickness
of
your
washers
should
be
about
0.018
inches.
If
you
use
a
thicker
washer,
you
will
risk
an
over-rich
result
replete
with
plug
fouling.
-
If
you
strike
out
at your
local
hardware
store,
go to
the
nearest
Nut
and
Bolt
distributor
and
ask
them
to order
a quantity
of the
following
washers:
MS15795-803.
This
is the
military
spec
for
a stainless
steel
washer
of the
size
you
need.
This
is a
fairly
low
quality
spec
(by
military
standards),
but
plenty
good
for
this
application.
You
may
have
to order
a minimum
quantity
of 250
or so.
Fortunately,
they
are
not
very
expensive.
Also,
many
aviation
maintenance
shops
should
have
these
MS15795-803
washers
on hand
and
should
be willing
to sell
you
just
a few
of them,
instead
of ordering
250...thanks
to Steven
Brinly
for
this
tip!
-
Important:
put
several
drops
of
medium
duty
Lock-Tite
(blue
not
red!)
on
the
grub
screw
then
reinstall
and
tighten
the
screw
fully,
then
back
out
the
screw
1/8
turn.
The
introduction
of
the
washer
corrupts
the
designed-in
geometry
of
the
components.
Backing
out
the
grub
screw
slightly
will
allow
you
to
re-capture
the
needle
"float"
you
observed
in
step
#1.
Set
aside
the
re-assembled
slide/needle
assembly
for
now.
-
Remove
the
kidney
shaped
plate
and
gasket
that
covers
the
air
jets
on
the
top
of
the
main
carb
body.
- Check
to make sure the air jets are not REVERSED. The correct
orientation is for the jet with the larger orifice (#120) to
be outboard. The jet with the smaller orifice (#60) should be
inboard. Correct the placement of these jets if necessary and
say a curse to Mr. Clymer! Replace the gasket and kidney-shaped
cover.
- Using
crocus cloth and light oil (like WD-40) gently polish the inner
surface of the carb top and the external "piston" contact areas
of the slide. Also, clean the inner bore brass bushing of the
carb top using a suitable wooden dowel wrapped with a bit of
crocus cloth. Don't be aggressive! You're not trying to remove
any metal, just clean and smooth the mating surfaces. Note:
a better way to clean the carb top inner bores is to use a 40/41/10
mm caliber bronze phosphor handgun bore brush (available at
any gun Shop
- Check
the carb top to make sure that the small relief port near the
junction point where the cap cylinder joins the top of the cap
is open and clear. I use compressed air to do this.
- Clean
the top and slide using contact cleaner. DO THIS OUTDOORS!
- Dry
the top and slide carefully with compressed air.
- Do
final cleaning of top and slide using a soft clean rag.
- Test
fit slide into carb top. The slide should glide in and out with
no discernible friction. If there's ANY sticking, repeat steps
9-14 as necessary until the result is satisfactory.
- I
like to test for proper vacuum response with a simple test.
Position the slide in the carb top (w/o spring). Pull the slide
out until the piston portion just engages the top. Hold the
whole assembly with the slide horizontal. Now using my mouth,
I apply a slight suction to the bottom of the slide…there are
several transfer ports adjacent the spot were the jet needle
emerges. Obviously, the sharp end of the jet needle goes inside
your mouth so be careful! When you apply a gently suction as
described, the slide should zing crisply up into the cap. If
not, investigate and correct before proceeding (a broken or
defective cap "button" is the likely culprit).
- Place
slide w/jet needle into the carb body taking care to engage
the locating pin for correct orientation. Make sure jet needle
lines up with corresponding needle jet. DO
NOT FORCE! Check for smooth up/down movement with no binding.
- Install
spring.
- Install
cap taking care to make sure spring is centered on carb top
post. Secure carb top mounting screws. DO NOT USE ANY LUBRICANT
ON THE SLIDE OR CAP!
- Now
repeat steps 1-18 for the other 3 carbs.
Inspect
the
intake
o-rings
and
replace
if the
condition
is in
doubt.
Carefully,
re-connect
the
intakes,
fuel
hose
and
air
cutoff
valve.
Replace
the
air
filter
assembly.
Reattach
the
crankcase
vent
hose.
Go for
test
ride.
You
should
be very
pleased
with
the
results.
The
key
is smooth
operation
of the
carb
slides
plus
the
critical
addition
of the
shim
washer
(step
# 4).
Unlike
a dirt
bike
carb,
the
GL1000
needles
are
"nonadjustable"
This
is true
for
most
carbs
that
have
two
sets
of main
jets:
primary
and
secondary.
However,
adding
the
washer
effectively
raises
the
needle
slightly
and
thereby
enriches
the
midrange
just
enough
to reduce
or eliminate
the
midrange
hesitation
overcoming
the
factory
imposed
lean
condition.
Don't
be tempted
to add
two
washers
instead
of one.
You
will
not
improve
your
results
and
you
will
introduce
new
problems
you'd
rather
not
deal
with.
Total
investment
will
be about
40 cents
for
washers
+ your
time.
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